The .17 Mach 2 (.17 M2) cartridge is based on a CCI Stinger .22 LR case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. maximum average pressure for the 218 Bee is 40,000 CUP. It is about 600 fps faster than the .17 Hornets and an honest 300 fps faster than the Mach IV and the Fireball. Regardless of how bullets were seated, chamber pressures appeared to be on the mild side in the Cooper and Remington guns. The first one was chambered for the so-called .17 Pee Wee, which was simply the .30 Carbine cartridge necked down to .17, and the first rifle was built . The trim die squeezes the neck down to .17 caliber, and its hardened surface allows squaring up the mouth of the case with a fine-tooth file. Berger set a terrific tone for .17 caliber bullets with a wide range of bulletsvariously producing bullets as light as 15 grains and as heavy as 37 grains (which require a very fast twist). 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Kills are usually quick and clean, and the fur is usually perfect. : 2.150" Powder: 24.1 gr 25.9 gr Vel. Believe me, this is important as this small-caliber case does generate significant pressure and piercing or blowing primers is a real possibility at excessive pressures. So with some hold-over aiming finesse, the .17 would make a decent ground squirrel and prairie dog cartridge out to 300 yards. Muzzle flash in a 10.75-inch barrel is minimal, while touching off a charge of LilGun is remindful of how the 221 Fireball got its name. All rights reserved. The .221 Fireball was created in 1959 as the initial chambering for Remington's new, unique, "space-age" XP-100 bolt-action pistol. It weighs 10.73 pounds scoped and the added Timney Trigger broke crisply at 2.08 pounds. One in the chamber and another in the magazine makes it a two-shooter. Brass is easily formed by running .221 RFB brass through .17 RFB full-length dies and trimming to 1.40 inches. More reliable bullets allowed .17-caliber rounds like the RFB to be run at 4,000-plus feet per second (fps) without worry of poor terminal performance. Hodgdon CFE BLK powder is in the series of CopperFouling Eraser propellants. In addition to stabilizing in a 1:16 twist, their thin jackets make them more effective on varmints than bullets of the same weight and even lighter that are constructed for cartridges of higher velocities. They shoot whisper-tiny projectiles the same diameter as the BBs we all loved to pop away with as kids. The round was first loaded with an 87-grain bullet at the then-astounding velocity of 3,000 fps; the "3000" in its name was, of course, a marketing maneuver on the bullet speed. .17 Remington (Using Hornady Bullets) reloading data with 77 loads. | The 218 Bee was developed specifically for the Winchester Model 65 lever action, and despite its extremely light recoil, it has always been factory loaded with tube-magazine-friendly bullets with flatnose profiles. Springfield Armory Hellion 5.56 NATO Bullpup Rifle: Tested, SIG Sauer P322 .22 Rimfire Pistol: Full Review. CZ calls the 527 a micro-Mauser due to its nonrotating claw extractor that grabs the rim of a case as its pushed forward out of the magazine and blade ejector. Sizing bushings are interchangeable and available in .001-inch increments, allowing just-right neck tensioning to accommodate specific chambers (a micrometer is used to measure outside neck diameter of a loaded cartridge and .001-inch subtracted). It simply is the 221 Remington Fireball necked down to 17 caliber, using a 30-degree shoulder. case and fireforming to minimum body taper and a 40-degree shoulder angle, the 7mm TCU is great fun to shoot due to its extremely mild recoil. .17 WSM ammunition includes Winchester Elite with 20 and 25 grain tipped bullets, Hornady with a 20 grain V-MAX tipped bullet and Federal American Eagle brand with a 20 grain tipped bullet. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. The 20-grain Varmageddon by Nosler is a classic cup-and-core hollowpoint that provides a great option for high-volume, budget-conscious varmint shooters. Yet the little pills zipped downrange from .17-caliber rifles shoot with lazer-like flatness and produce surprisingly impressive results on small game and predators. I had enough primed cases left over for exactly four-shot strings, and one does not waste primers these days. Remember, the above accuracy results are averages with all brands of ammunition tested. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Cases last just short of forever, an important consideration when choosing a powder for loading bucketfuls of cartridges needed for defending your position from hordes of crazed flickertails. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. For instance, if you want to shoot the new .17 WSM, you're pretty much limited to Savage's B-Mag and perhaps one or two single-shot, novelty type rifles such as Taylor Firearms' little baby Sharps. When both are loaded to maximum chamber pressures and fired in barrels of the same length, the Ackley cartridge is about 100 fps faster. This was before coyotes invaded the East and decimated the groundhog population, so we accounted for our share of them. Some seating-depth jockeying would likely reap rewards, and the stock could use some work, as a piece of paper will not slip between barrel and stock. Robust, accurate and without expense-increasing frills, the XT-17 comes with a 22-inch barrel in your choice of stainless or blued, with walnut or synthetic stock. Remington factory ammo measures 1.810 inches in length and due to a fairly long chamber throat in the test rifle, the bullet is required to free-travel 0.183 inch prior to engaging the rifling. The .17 Fireball includes such mild recoil that the shooter gets to watch all the action through the scope. I had expected chamber pressure and velocity of the factory load to be a bit lower in the improved chamber, and they were, but accuracy in my rifle was quite good. Regardless of the powder used, velocity spread can be a bit high with the 17 Hornet, although it seldom affects accuracy enough to matter within the effective varmint-shooting range of the cartridge. The full-page lead photo was filled with two hunters, one tiny rifle and a huge Alaskan brown bear wearing a hide that surely squared 10 feet or better. Whereas squeezing in enough IMR 4198 to reach top velocities with those two can be challenging, maximum charges of CFE BLK drop in with a bit of room to spare. Most .17 caliber bullets are much lighter than those of .22 caliber, and that makes them greatly dependent on high velocities for quick kills on varmints. It is my fathers favorite rat rifle and I was able to borrow it only because it was during the off-season. I just spoke to a gent this past week on this subject. 55mm. The .17 Remington, on the other hand, is the darling of predator hunters protective over pelts. Remington introduced it in 1971, and soon thereafter a friend of mine bought a Model 700 BDL chambered for it. box; midwayusa.com. Load data for caliber ".17 Rem." The .17 Remington is a short-length cartridge developed by the Remington Arms Company in 1971. . It varied among the three bullets tried. Highly accurate cup-and-core, polymer-tipped and Partition bullets cover most bases, and new bonded bullets and several lead-free projectiles add to the .280's versatility. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. Also my 17 funnel and a box of the hsm 25 hp bergers. I was reminded of him while loading IMR 4198 in the Ackley cartridge in order to compare its performance with CFE BLK. When charging cases, use care. Good brushes, a good one-piece rod, a bore guide and a solvent at least equal to Shooters Choice are all smart investments. Now lets take a close look at the performance of CFE BLK in several varmint cartridges. The Hornady and Ackley versions of the 17 Hornet are examples. Im betting the .17 Hornet will hang in there, however, because it has a ready-made home as any gun chambered for the .22 Hornet can also be chambered for the .17. The factory 20-grain loads were accurate and had a velocity of 3,567 fps when shot from a CZ 527 American. There are others, such as the excellent, mild-mannered .17 Mach 2, the accurate but short-lived .17 Remington Fireball and so on, but the cartridges detailed above are the main players on the current seventeen scene. Nitroglycerine content makes them double-base propellants. The barrels of the Ruger Model 77/17H and the Remington XP-100 had accumulated some, but it vanished after only three applications of solvent. maximum of 52,000 CUP for the 221 Fireball and also considerably below the pressure generated by a maximum charge of LilGun with the Berger 30-grainer. Both guns are stock Remington 700's with only Rifle Basix triggers added. The .17 Remington Fireball introduced a few years ago is a somewhat larger edition of the .17 Hornet, but the Fireball is less than trendy. Simply run a case through the Ackley full-length resizer and it is ready to load. The V-MAX bullets had an average velocity of 3,567 fps for 10 shots recorded 10 feet in front of the muzzle of the 21.90-inch barrel of a CZ 527 American. Most current .270 Win. It's a "hot" round, pushing a 48-grain bullet at 4,100 fps. Neither the author nor Outdoor Sportsman Group assumes any liability for accidents or injury resulting from the use or misuse of this data. The Best of both worlds: After nearly 4 years of waiting, Dan Wesson's DWX is here. That powder seems to always work for me. My speed obsession may also have worked against me, as the lightest loads in many cases resulted in the best groups (though these were still well above actual start loads). To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Vihtavuori N133, IMR-8308 XBR and Accurate LT-30 were paired with this bullet, but none particularly impressed. Reloder 7 did its best with a maximum load of 16.5 grains; .53 inch at 4,039. 7 1/2 primers and 4320 have been the go to combo for 17 Rem. Subscriber Services. MSRP: $11.99 per 50-rnd. A friend of mine has two custom rifles in 17 Hornet, and accuracy from one is best with the Remington 6, while the other prefers the Winchester WSR. Blackout loads were extrapolated from .221 Fireball loads tested before, velocities indicating these loads came out about right, with velocities mirroring other powder choices. I'm watching this thread because I just got my 17 rem upper. I later bought an OBrien rifle in .17 Mach IV, and after shooting it for about 10 years, I sold it to a collector. The first 10 rounds were outstanding. Full-length sizing is fine if you want cartridges to headspace off the .17s rim, but that amount of sizing set the case shoulders back .005 inch, which can cause cases to split around the web after firing them a few times. This bullet was good in its day and set the tone for the .17s reputation as an excellent pelt caliber. His most successful wildcat, the .17 Hornet Improved, requires an RCBS die set for forming the case. Muzzle velocity was 3,488 fps at a chamber pressure of 46,400 psi. If you look at a burn rate chart and published reloading data, you will see other powders that are closeReloder 15, IMR4064, Varget, VV N-140, and H4895 are commonly referenced. 23.5 grn. The powder weights for all the loads but one listed in the table were weighed as precisely as I could on a balance scale. Rod Herrett stocked the gun, and Fred Smith fitted its 15-inch Shilen barrel. All recorded groups are fired from a solid bench rest at an outdoor rifle range. Hodgdons recommended maximum of 12.5 grains with a 20-grain bullet fills a case formed from Winchester 22 Hornet brass to its brim. A few grains of bullet weight in this diminutive cartridge can make a very large difference in terminal effect, and the sleeker HPBT design flies exceedingly well. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. A chamber pressure of 40,600 CUP is well below the S.A.A.M.I. Overall, Hodgdons CFE BLK, Alliants Reloder 10x, Vihtavuoris N133 and Ramshots X-Terminator emerged as clear winners, providing a balanced combination of accuracy and velocity in this fine varminting cartridge. 17 September 2002, 13:14. As much as I like LilGun in the 221 Fireball, I have to admit CFE BLK has pushed it to second place on my preference chart. Having a burn speed close to H4198 and IMR 4198 makes CFE BLK suitable for use in a variety of applications, including the .17- and .22-caliber varmint cartridges covered in this report. The load was too much for F-Class. * We tested two different Marlin Model 917VS and Ruger K77/17VMBBZ rifles. With the 65, I recommend 47.5 grains of Varget or 47.5 grains of IMR 4064. It fed cartridges measuring 1.750 inches just fine, but to avoid any feeding issues in the field, I reduced COL to 1.745 inches. 6 Best .300 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) Rifles, Remington .50-70 Rolling Block History: New York's Pick to Arm Its National Guard, .375 H&H Mag. Norma 200, 55gr. Give it a shot and see what youve been missing. and the one you speak of is one of them. Factory .223 Remington loads often provide good accuracy, but the cartridge is a great choice for handloaders who want to duplicate or even exceed factory ammunition ballistics. Plus, whats not to like about a cartridge with a near absence of recoil that shoots flat enough to take small game out to 300 yards? He was a college professor, a gifted machinist, a writer, a barrel maker, a bullet maker, a builder of rifles and an avid experimenter. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. The Hornady .17 case, however, is a bit shorter in length and to the base of the shoulder than the Ackley case. [br] Other powders to consider are those in the same burn rate range. Like some other spherical powders, Hodgdon CFE BLK performs best in cartridge case capacity/bullet weight combinations that allow 90 to 100 percent load density. Some 6mm Rem AI shooters prefer to shoot the 87gr V-Max from a 10-twist barrel.The 6mm Rem AI set up with a 10-twist barrel to shoot the 87gr V-Max is about the ultimate long-range varmint caliber one could ever . An overall cartridge length of 1.815 inches with the Hornady 20-grain V-Max exceeds what the Ruger magazine is capable of handling, so those rounds had to be manually loaded directly into the chamber. Only a couple of characteristics plague .17-caliber firearms: tiny bullets require delicate rifling that is easily damaged by cleaning equipment; and tiny bores are, well, just plain aggravating to clean. Hammer Bullets 18 grain Dead Blow is another excellent nontoxic (California compliant) option milled from a single piece of copper. Shooting reloads may void any warranty on your firearm. This bullet, seated to a 1.81-inch OAL, also started turning in better groups. In 2007, Remington Arms introduced a new rifle cartridge based on their 221 Fireball necked down to 17 caliber. The heavier bullets had much lower extreme spreads, with 43 to 45 fps for the 25-grain bullets and 30 to 66 fps for the 30-grain bullets. Smooth flow is also convenient to those who load on a single-stage press as it allows powder charges to be dispensed by a measure as opposed to the slower method of weighing each charge. <oneshot>. The S.A.A.M.I. Open sights are standard, and the receiver is grooved for common rimfire scope rings. For the bigger animals such as predators, its very hard to beat a 25-grain hollow point. Small powder charges result in cleaner shooting than the .17 Remington though all .17-caliber cartridges require frequent barrel cleaning to assure continued accuracy. The barrel and action include a protective Parkerized finish. On the faster burning end of the usable spectrum, and with lighter bullets powders like H322 can deliver astonishingly high velocity with excellent accuracy. But like most rifles in 22 Hornet, the barrels of those in 218 Bee have a rifling twist of 1:16 inches, which is not quick enough to stabilize many of the bullets listed for this cartridge in various reloading manuals. Velocity from the 10.75-inch barrel of the XP-100 was just over 3,100 fps, with accuracy as good as that particular gun has ever produced. .17 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Recipe Type: Bullet Weight: Recipe Source: Starting Max Source 15.5 gr NTX (HDY) 0.172" Powder: Benchmark (Hodgdon) Primer: REM 7 Case: REM Trim Length: 1.786" C.O.L. bullet will surprise you also. Give a Gift The bolt on one would not close, and though the bolt on the other rifle would close, the fit was so tight a steady diet of that ammo would eventually cause galling of the locking lugs. He called it the .17 Pee Wee and built a dramatically scaled-down 1917 Enfield action specifically for it. What load are you using with 8208 with the 20 grain VMax? It is a great powder for cartridges from the .17 Remington Fireball to the .22-250 Remington. It pushes 25-grain bullets up to 3,200 fps. About the same time, Hornady introduced its version of the 25-grain HPand this was (and is) an excellent bullet, though sadly it appears to be out of production at the moment. Seventeen-caliber cartridges have always fascinated a certain group of handloaders for some mystical reason. I can consistently keep them under an inch with this load. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. The first commercial .17-caliber round, the .17 Remington, was hobbled by the inferior .17-caliber bullets available upon its release, often resulting in superficial wounds on animals such as coyotes. 17 MACH IV. To barely bump back the shoulders of cases and set headspace on the shoulders, I turned the size die up a partial turn from contacting the shellholder. Cases are available from Nosler and Normaand they are quite goodthough a bit more heavily constructed than the original Remingtonsso the handloader must take this into consideration and work up loads carefully if using data that was developed in Remington cases. Hornadys 15.5-grain NTX (Non-Traditional eXpanding) bullet is a polymer-tipped, lead-free (California legal) option allowing screaming velocity combined with dramatic terminal performance on small varmints. Speaking of casesgood cartridge cases are available from a variety of sources, as is loaded ammunition. Bergers 25 grain Flat Base Varmint was chosen to represent the 25 grain weight class after noting exceptional accuracy in other calibers with this bullet. Ackley had his hand in developing decades previously. Through the years I have handloaded for several lever-action rifles chambered for the 218 Bee, and recoil is so light I never found it necessary to crimp the mouth of the case into the bullet, so lack of a cannelure on the Sierra bullets is not a factor. Hodgdons load data shows 11.0 grains of H-4198 gave the 20-grain V-MAX a velocity of 3,226 fps. During one of those conversations, I requested samples of any sub-caliber wildcats Ackley might have on hand. Just $1 per month , Everything you ever wanted to know about the .17 Remington, By The reason the author made the first .17 caliber was the result of a deal with the late C.H. Have you tried H322? It would not go 20 rounds without overheating the barrel and experiencing velocity excursions. Based on reloading die sales at RCBS, Ackleys .17 Hornet Improved is still one of the most popular cartridges of its caliber among varmint shooters. When using that primer in this cartridge, it is important to begin with a starting load and keep a close eye on fired primer condition while carefully working up. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. And CFE BLK does have several advantages over those two propellants. While shooting, I cleaned powder fouling from their barrels after each 25-round string, but applied no additional copper solvent. WARNING: The loads shown here are safe only in the guns for which they were developed. Its case is 1.796 inches long and while many assert that its nothing more than a .223 necked to .17, a quick examination of the cases clearly demonstrates that this is not so. (Photo courtesy of Lane Pearce) September 20, 2022 By Lane Pearce. When introducing the .17 Remington Fireball in 2008, Remington copied the .17 Mach IV case with the exception of a couple of dimensions. Don't recall the load but it didn't shoot very well. I have attempted to chamber Remington ammo in two .17 Mach IV rifles. The CZ 527 and Hornady factory loads combined for this 200-yard group. The new case most likely is shorter so it can be loaded with relatively long and pointed Hornady 20- and 25-grain V-MAX bullets and still retain the same 1.723-inch overall cartridge length of the .22 Hornet. The 17 Mach IV was designed by Vern O'Brien, Las Vegas, Nevada, in 1962. When carefully prepared handloads are fired in good barrels, accuracy of the two cartridges is the same. Likewise, only a few models exist for Hornady's new .17 Hornet, and rare too are rifles currently chambered in the uncommon but long-lived .17 Remington. I dont know how Hodgdon fit 11.8. Shooting this series during March, Id have to await sunshine to allow employing a standard chronograph to begin testing. Adding 5 grains of bullet weight slows the pace to 3,750 fps but results additional large-target reliability. Whereas CFE BLK proved to be an excellent choice for the two 17 Hornets, shot-to-shot velocity spread was quite high when it was asked to burn in the roomier case of the 17 Fireball. He owned no powder scale and simply filled the case to the brim with IMR 4198, seated a bullet on top, and commenced to terrorize the local crow population. Slightly compressed charges often deliver the lowest shot-to-shot variations in velocity, while dropping much below 90 percent can result in high velocity spreads. When shooting ground squirrels and prairie dogs with a bolt-action rifle, I seldom use its magazine anyway. There were certainly some exceptional groups involved, but the rifle proved more finicky than I anticipated. The interior magazine length of Remington Model 700 rifles chambered for this cartridge is shortened at the factory by the installation of a filler block. Patches pushed through the bore came out with the black gunk of powder fouling but no blue color to indicate jacket fouling. Formed by necking up the .223 Rem. Precision Redding full-length Type S Match Dies with .195-inch titanium nitride sizing bushing and micro-adjustable seating-die head were used. Starting and maximum charges vary slightly in the Hornady manual, but no more than to be expected from different lots of the same powders or slight differences in barrels, cases and bullets. Ten grains gave 20-grain bullets a velocity of nearly 3,700 fps, which is all you can expect from such a small amount of powder. Price: $280 to $350-ish When a Redding Handgun/Small Rifle measure is set to throw 20.0 grains of CFE BLK, it throws 16.3 grains of IMR 4198. Patrick's top picks for loading the .17 Remington Fireball are Hodgdon's CFE BLK, Accurate's A-2200, Alliant's Reloder 10x and Western Powders' Ramshot X-Terminator. This concludes with an average overall group size for all types of ammunition. That partial, full-length sizing helps reduce the stretch of firing and the squeeze of sizing to extend case life. The .17 Remington is a fun and interesting round to work with. Although overall cartridge length is restricted to about 1.950 inches, there is still more than enough room to seat bullets close to the rifling should doing so be necessary or desired. CFE 223 was introduced in 2012, and CFE Pistol followed in 2014. Longer stick propellants can bridge when flowing through purpose-designed .17 caliber powder dispensing equipment, and for this reason I always weigh my charges carefully and inspect the charged cases prior to the bullet seating operation. Stocky's Owner Don Bitz walks David Faubion through the company's new rifle stocks for 2023. | Typically, groups with each rifle are fired for record by three or four Guns and Shooting Online staffers and/or contributors. There are a variety of .17-caliber bullets for handloaders to choose from. In addition to delivering much lower velocity spreads, accuracy was better with IMR 4198 and H335. He killed 17 wolves and 6-8 caribou with that load plus who knows how many foxes and coyotes. During May 2016, he thinned the Idaho rockchuck and ground squirrel populations with a custom pistol in 17 Hornet built around a single-shot Sako A1 action. Hornadys 20-grain Z-MAX is the same as the V-MAX in every way, except the polymer tip is Zombie green instead of Hornady red. Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. maximum overall cartridge length of 1.720 inches to ensure its compatibility with the magazines of rifles originally designed for the .22 Hornet. While accuracy was better with that ammo than I had anticipated (averaging 1.55 inches at 100 yards), seating bullets in handloads to lightly contact the rifling shrank group size considerably. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. I also like using IMR8208 with the 25gr. : 4,638 4,917 Press. Having the tools, it was decided to make a few barrels. CFE BLK my go-to .221 Fireball rifle powder produced top velocities and good accuracy, including a .48-inch group at 4,250 fps with 17 grains of powder. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. And for those who have grown weary of forming 17 Ackley Hornet cases from 22 Hornet brass, I have included a CFE BLK load in Hornadys 17 Hornet case. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the muzzle of a rifle in .223 Rem. Two of the very best choices are the Hornady and Sierra Hornet bullets weighing 45 grains. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the .22-250 Rem. Ackleys little cartridge, but loading CFE BLK is faster because it flows through a good powder measure with much greater uniformity in charge weight. MV with a 20 grain bullet is 3000 fps and MV with a 25 grain bullet is 2600 fps. The Berger 30-grain bullet delivered only slightly better accuracy with 0.005-inch jump than with no jump, and an increase of another 0.005 inch opened up groups. Neither possessing the generalist appeal of the working class .223, nor the macho western appeal of the .22/250, the .17 caliber usually appeals to a different setthe specialists, such as fur hunters, the tinkerers, and the people who seek enjoyment off the beaten path. How does the performance of the .17s compare with .22 caliber varmint cartridges? Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. A case in point is Hornadys new .17 Hornet with roots back to the beginning of .17-caliber cartridges in the years following World War II. Neck sizing the cases stretched them to 1.344. Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. In this cartridge, an overcharge of a fraction of a grain, particularly when working with near maximum loads, can produce excessive pressuresso a little extra care in this step is essential. That meshes closely with Hornadys 200-yard zero figures: +1.1 inches at 100 yards and -6.40 inches at 300 yards. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. Zippy 25-grain projectiles exit the muzzle in excess of a jaw-dropping 4,000 fps. If the rifle is accurate, one really has to be "off the playing field" to assemble handloads that won't shoot. Hornady currently loads its .17 Hornet with 20-grain V-MAX and 15.5-grain NTX bullets. advertised factory ballistics are about 100 fps less than the initial claim nearly a century ago. A decrease in body taper gained back some of the capacity loss, but its gross water capacity is still about one grain less than for Ackleys version. The .17 Hornet (left) looks like a larger version of the .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (right). models. Tested on 75 & 80 degree days with no pressure problems.. It's just a GREAT load for the 17 Remington.. 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