http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=168477. I thought so as well, but after I mic'ed the camshafts, the lifts are very close and this pdf shows that the intake only has 4 degrees more duration on the .98 and the exhaust cam is the same, though indexed 1 degree off of the .98 motors. The short side radius of the early head is just awful. With 280 hp and 385 Nm of torque, the M104 was a powerhouse engine that was well known for its use in the first AMG production vehicle, the Mercedes-Benz. Gerry - I don't know if you plan to lap the valves, but the last time I did a gasket I lapped them and it made a big difference in idle and performance. RTV will "glue" two parts together, while the orange anaerobic does not. Click to enlarge. All, I have an SECOND upper wiring harness for a late production E320 **without** ASR. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Cylinder Head for M104 3.2l Engine MERCEDES BENZ W124 E320 at the best online prices at eBay! US$3,425.67 US$2,999.00. Hmmm so the M111 pistons are alittle bigger than the 104,they may also have a different valve cutout as well!. That's the same size as the AMG motor. Gerry I am about to replace the tappets / lifters on my 97 E320 M104. Free shipping. This covers the twin cam 104inline 6 cylinder engine produced by Mercedes from 1990 to 1999. In 1993, two capacities replaced the 3.0 litre: a 2.8L; 170.8cuin (2,799cc) replaced the old single-cam M103 engine and the 3.2 litre M104.99x replaced the double-cam M104.98x. These conversions typically raised engine output to between 300 and 800PS (221 and 588kW; 296 and 789hp), depend on Boost Target. Ssangyong (South Korean brand) made a 3.6 litre variant of M104 inline-six engine based on the 2.8 litre model, producing 248hp (185kW; 251PS) or 276hp (206kW; 280PS) on earlier versions, for its Chairman model, a full-size luxury sedan. Whereas the circular ones don't. For 1986 to 1993 Six Cylinder gas engines - both single and twin camshaft. Description Mercedes OEM Remanufactured M104 Gas Engine. [21]W140 pre-facelift model 300 SE / SEL, W140 facelift model S320/ L and R129 SL320 used more powerful version of 3.2-liter M104 engine which produced 170kW (231PS; 228hp).[22][23][24][25][26][27][28][29][30][31]. Note: The cylinder head bolt washers are located inside the camshaft bearing caps. Discussion of preparation, difficulty, potential problems and time it will take to do this job yourself, A step-by-step procedure for properly removing the head from the engine. In fact I have stroked a 2.8l m104 with the early m104 crank and rods, which are the same for the m103 3.0l also. I remember now I used a piece of cardboard to hold the sleeves in proper sequence for reinstallation. Apply to both front and rear of bracket. Reinstall heater return pipe, replace seal. Many owners neglect replacing the engine coolant thermostat. Would you happen to have the contact information for Don? A major cause of poor fuel economy and weak cabin heater performance, If you want your head gasket repair to last these are the important steps you must follow, M104 Gas Engine Head Gasket Replacement Part 1: Overview - On Demand Video. top model completing the line-up of M103 12V engines. Captured some videos of the experience here. During the 1990s UK customers were able to buy new vehicles equipped with a Turbo Technics conversion directly from Mercedes dealer Hughes of Beaconsfield (limited run of 75 conversions). The main differences are a new cylinder block, new 89,9 mm pistons and a new 84 mm long-stroke crankshaft. Thread size is M6x1.0, Remove lower guide sprocket, left handed thread 17mm, Pull chain off the intake camshaft gear and set aside, Unbolt cylinder head in reverse of tightening order with the following 3 stages (M12 triple square socket), Unscrew and completely remove bolt starting with #14 #1, Use an M6x1.0 screw to extract the guide rail pin. Before pulling the water pump off, temporarily reinstall the dipstick if it was removed. Engine oil capacity including filter requires 7.0 liters of oil. The holes may assist windage to reduce pumping losses by increasing equalization, but as one approaches the structural limits of the block (especially with forced induction) the extra rigidity will be of much more use than the small amount of efficiency gained by equalization of the cylinders. You might google him to get more tips on the M104 engine. Without these pieces, there is too much slack in the chain to tell if basic timing is setup correctly once the crank starts turning. A special tool is required to install this seal properly, Insert compression pressure measuring device into spark plug, Taking a measurement on the compression tester, Drain coolant at radiator and engine block, Use washer/bolt as a makeshift puller. The 2.8 litre version was also used in the 1996-2003 Mercedes-Benz Vito (W638) commercial vans, where it was designated as 'M104.900'. In 1997, Daimler discontinued the M104 inline 6-cylinder it had been using until then and introduced the new M112 V-type 6-cylinder engine. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Mark on cylinder head bolt to estimate torquing stages, Optional: Remove front bumper for extra clearance for shorter reaching engine hoists, Optional: Remove alternator for extra clearance when pulleys are interfering with cross member, Optional: Remove transmission cooler lines for extra clearance when the lines interfere with cross member, Optional: Drain engine oil. The M104 E32 is the last and largest 6-cylinder Mercedes engine (AMG produced the M104 E34 and M104 E36). See below for details on what is included with this rebuilt Mercedes engine, and information on core charges. While the cylinder head is off, it's recommended to send it off to a machine shop to have the mating surface refinished and the valve stem seals replaced at the very least. 01-1000 - Notes regarding crankcase; 01-1020 - Dimensions for pressing in straight pins in crankcase; 01-1100 - Measuring, drilling and honing cylinder bores; 01-1200 - Facing crankcase contact surface; 01-1220 - Servicing threaded holes for cylinder head bolts Pagz, what's your piston Diameter, do you know? Contact the seller. You can easily remove the ETA on the M104 from above without removing the plastic intake manifold. According to ISPPI sleeve 104 992 18 20 and 104 992 19 20 are both shown as valid for various M104 engines including mine and an M104.991. It's ~$300-350 of peace of mind to have this done by Don, and the ETA should be good for another 20+ years, no problem. Piston tops and mating surface before cleaning. I have the time, and it won't be that expensive to have this done. In third its slightly less as it shifts at 6600 if left to its own. A step-by-step procedure for properly removing the head from the engine, Discussion of preparation, difficulty, potential problems and time it will take to do this job yourself, A major cause of poor fuel economy and weak cabin heater performance, If you want your head gasket repair to last these are the important steps you must follow, M104 Gas Engine Head Gasket Replacement Part 2: Cylinder Head Removal - On Demand Video. Head Gasket Mercedes-Benz 2.8/3.2L M104 .051" MLS Cylinder Head Gasket, 91mm Bore. Nah, let's get all the M104 information in here that we can! It's amazing how much stuff you have to remove to get to the pesky head. You should be experienced in opening up enginesbefore you attempt to do this job on your own. The first link is an article by Steve Brotherton. MTech.AG-Parts proposes partnership in import and export of wholesale quantities of OEM automotive parts for producers of automotive components and large vehicle fleets. MB part number is 124 440 56 32 The production date is February, 2003. (Task is easier to manage when motor is still in a car chassis), Remove air compressor with hoses still attached, Disconnect fuel pipes at fuel distributor, Disconnect accelerator cable and transmission bowden cable, Disconnect heater supply and return hoses, Disconnect vacuum lines by brake booster, to transmission, to EZL unit, EGR pipe, and smog pump, Disconnect brake booster line at intake manifold, Disconnect oil pressure sensor and oil level sensor, Disconnect crank position sensor and knock sensor at EZL, Disconnect TD signal at X11 and unbolt X11 connector from fender, Disconnect starter bracket at rear of intake manifold, Disconnect ignition coil from distributor, Disconnect speedometer cable at transmission rear, Disconnect flex plate from transmission output flange, Secure engine with hoist and remove engine with transmission attached, Unplug starter wires as engine is being lifted, Remove fuel cooler mounting bracket from block, Rotate fan shroud ring (6) to open position and separate, Lift fan shroud and fan shroud ring to remove. Cometic Mercedes M104 91mm Bore .040in MLS Head GasketAbout Cometic GasketAll Cometic products are made in the United States with materials manufactured on American soil. View and Download Our 2023 Catalog Now. on the M104 engine. $400.00. More information We offer only new mechanical components and parts for vehicles. Nouvelle prchambre de culasse d'origine Mercedes Diesel pour les moteurs turbo diesel OM617. S65. 2. The M104 cylinder head is very heavy. Alternatives include Loctite 5900 and Permatex The Right Stuff. BMW Cylinder Heads, 8 Cylinder. Possible problems you may have with wiring harness. The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a straight-6 automobile engine produced from 1989 through 1999. VAC Special Fittings. YMMV. There were 3.3L conversions done to the 3.0 L M104.980 by AMG, prior to their formal cooperation with Daimler Benz. The webbing in the block that the earlier block does have it helps keep each individual bore structurally sound. The boost in displacement was obtained by boring the 2.8 litre M104 block by 2.1mm (0.083in) and using a highly modified version of the crankshaft from the 3.5L OM603 to increase throw by 18.9mm (0.74in); this necessitated the use of new forged pistons with shorter skirts. Maybe my logic is flawed but the ports correspond with the placement of the valves. Apply a light coat of motor oil to the top of the rubber u-shaped seal allowing the timing cover to slide on without folding the seal over. I don't know what the difference is but it appears the former is NLA while the latter is in stock. You are using an out of date browser. The M104.98x engines share the same fan clutch as the older M103 predecessor. 20163 Jahre 5 Monate. 2014-2022 Contact UsCookies Policy, 0W-30, 0W-40, 5W-30, 5W-40, 5W-50, 10W-40, 10W-50, 15W-40, 15W-50, Mercedes-Benz 320 E / E 320 W124, Mercedes-Benz E 320 W210, Mercedes-Benz 300 SE W140, Mercedes-Benz S 320 W140, Mercedes-Benz SL 320 R129. K-Jetronic KE-Jetronic CLICK HERE to view all. The 3.0-liter M104 was the start point for the new 3.2l version. Apply sealant to the mating surface of the timing cover. The bore spacing on all M104 engines is the same as M103 engines. Learn how to fix it yourself. Crankcase. This is held on by six 5mm Allen-head bolts, which are easily taken care of. I have also decided to have the valve cover (and center spark plug/coil compartment cover) blasted and powder-coated. Many owners neglect replacing the engine coolant thermostat. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. The M104 E32 3.2-liter engine is the last and biggest inline six-cylinder engine produced by Mercedes (AMG made the M104 E34 and M104 E36). Activities in my area of responsibility in the weaving mill. The video(s) will show up under My Video Manuals. 3 mo ago 673 8 Only show this user Hello! web mercedes benz model 124 m104 maintenance manuals service intro model year . New 1976 to 1993 Fuel Injection Repair Kits Available. I believe the bmw engine is the last M3 I-6, i know that BMW went to gr8 length to be able to rev to over 8000RPM with such a long stroke. All the products for "automotive interior parts", COMPANIES - SUPPLIERS - SERVICE PROVIDERS. While applying pressure on the counter-hold tool, loosen the 8mm hex allen bolt, Remove fan clutch and fan blade assembly together, Loosen 10mm allen hex bolt in center of belt tensioner, Loosen belt tensioner using 13mm adjustment from the top, Tension the belt using 13mm adjustment rod, Tighten until belt tensioner pointer is at max (leftmost), Tighten 10mm allen hex bolt in center of belt tensioner to 75 Nm, Loosen bolts on pulleys for water pump, power steering pump, and fan clutch, Remove pulleys on water pump, power steering pump, and fan clutch, Remove top bolt (6) of belt tensioner damper to front cover, 13mm hex, Remove center bolt to belt tensioner (16), 10mm allen, Remove 3 bolts on Y-bracket (1), (3), and (4) and remove Y-bracket, Note: Bottom right bolt (1) has counter-hold nut (2), Remove setting pointer (13), belt tensioner (14), damper (10) and adjustment rod (18), Install belt tensioner (14) with setting pointer (13), damper (10) and adjustment rod (18), Align damper (10) and install top bolt (6), 13mm hex. Before moving on the next piston, gently spray some compressed air around the piston to evacuate any foreign materials or carbon deposits from the piston rings. Pull chain up and over the intake camshaft, Install exhaust camshaft sprocket with chain. MTech.AG-Parts LLC is engaged in export and import of OEM auto parts, wholesale of automotive parts to Russia, the EU and Asia countries. It was designed on the basis of the 3.2-liter engine. Warped or cracked heads, damaged valves, or burned pistons are . This version is unrelated to other engines designated M104. Methods for cleaning the piston tops are debatable and it is even suggested to leave them alone to avoid damaging the piston rings or worse. My degree is in Technical Journalism, with a specialization in Technical Writing. These head bolts hold the cylinder head to the engine block. Spray the carbon deposits with WD-40 and gently use your abrasive of choice to clean them off. This range does not include taxes and fees, and does not factor in your specific model year or unique location. If you notice your engine temperature running low or you car taking a long time to heat up inside these are the first signs your thermostat has failed. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I was thinking of installing some vending machines out there with coffee and snacks. Looks like I'll be keeping the W124 after all! I am some what sure that all M104s have CR of 10 bar the M104 AMG36 at 10.5. Pistons & Rings. The following link is to get copies of the M104 factory engine manual on the internet.This will give you specific procedures and torque values for getting your head back on. kudos! Turbocharger kits were offered for both the M103 and M104 engines by Turbo Technics, Mosselman, Lotec, MAD Modify, Turbobandit and other tuners. [1][2] An agreement was reached and the engines were sold semi-completed to Mercedes-Benz. http://www.w124performance.com/service/Index/104/01General.htm. UTT Technische Textilien GmbH & Co. Aug. 2013-Dez. The company was established in 2018. AMG later conceded that since the engine was hand modified, power outputs could vary slightly from 276 to 287hp (206 to 214kW; 280 to 291PS). The stroke is 73.5 mm (2.3-liter version has 89.0 mm stroke). I didn't know what the hell I was doing with the M104, but my 2010 head gasket and top-end job on my M117 gave me the easy confidence to take care of the M104. Theyre just a metal tube that dont deteriorate. Install timing chain guide sprocket. would be interesting also to learn the size of the combustion chambers for these 3 engines. Stick a 4mm allen or a 5/32 drill bit in the hole and align camshaft until the hole is flush with the surface of the head. Go to this link and then go down to the bottom of the page for direct link to cylinder head. 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